Sunday, November 20, 2005

A Note on The Anti-Taser Movement

You would think that the Anti-Taser movement would have died down by now, but apparently it hasn't. People still wish to whine about how Tasers are too dangerous, and how they should be banned. Just like most anti-weapons advocates, these people have no common sense whatsoever and too much free time.

A Taser can be used in place of a gun. Guns can kill people. A gun doesn't always kill people, but it can. Still, I believe the odds of being killed by a gun are much higher than the odds of being killed by a Taser. A Taster is a much less lethal alternative. People might still die, but more would be dead if guns were used in the kind of situations where Tasers are now used.

We also have to keep in mind safety. What if we make it so that the officer can only use his gun when he is shot at, and we ban Tasers to eliminate casualties? Officers could be dead before the get a chance to react, and more officers would be wounded. If the situation doesn't call for the firing of a weapon, then a Taser is perfect. If it is not used, and the officer does not fire his sidearm, there is a chance innocent bystanders or the officer could be hurt.

Just like any weapon, Tasers require training. You cannot operate a weapon until you can do so safely. Not everyone gets the best training. If everyone did have the best training, we wouldn't have accidental shootings. People would know not to ever have a gun loaded unless they are going to fire it. They would know to keep guns locked up in a safe place. But not everyone has common sense. Some people are idiots. There is where the problem lies.

How about if instead of punishing those who are trying to help others, we punish the root of the problem? We wouldn't need guns if we didn't have criminals. Stop sympathizing with criminals and stay on the side of the law. If a rapist/mugger/murderer was coming for you, would you want to have a method of defending yourself? Weapons are for self-defense, but they are a danger to all unless the operator of the weapon, whatever it may be, is competent to effectively use it.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tasers are still a pinicale of police brutality. When they try to "keep the peace" and use "non-lethal force" all they do is shoot them over and over with their tasers, or beat them into a pulp with their batons. Hmm yes, a good non-lethal alternative? No, a taser is just another way to kill someone.

11/27/2005 02:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A non-lethal weapon killing people? Gasp! It's only because two reasons: 1. they were stupid enough to commit a crime, and 2. they resisted arrest and forced the police to take action. The number of deaths woulfd be way larger had it not been for tasers. Congradulations on making yourself look like an idiot.

11/27/2005 02:33:00 PM  
Blogger Scott Simontis said...

If we didn't have criminals, we wouldn't have a problem. And, training is required in these weapons. Any idiot can fire a Taser. The question is, can a person fire a Taser correctly, causing minimal harm to bystanders, while protecting himself and neutralizing the criminal? Here is where the problem is. Police must be trained how to correctly handle Tasers. A Taser is a weapon, and all weapons require training.

11/27/2005 02:35:00 PM  
Blogger Scott Simontis said...

And, by the way, let's try to avoid flaming. No need to start name-calling. Flame wars are no fun, especially when you have to moderate them. I will let it slide this time, but from now on, all further flames, or anything I interperet to be a flame, will be deleted. If you disagree with my moderation, feel free to contact me so we can discuss it.

11/27/2005 02:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tasers are horrible weapons and as you said,maybe it's just a weapon but truthfully.It would be much better to ban tasers altogether.Do we really need another weapon in the hands of undertrained police officers that can only do harm with a weapon?No we don't.That polish man died at the hands of these so-called officers.

11/17/2007 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem with tasers is that officers are too quick to use them, and enjoy using them far too much (see the recent tasering of a family man that simply refused to sign a traffic ticket. "He took a ride with the taser.")

Officers should not be in possession of any tool if there is chance that they will abuse it. Obviously, they have a track record of abusing the taser and using it in situations where it isn't warranted, simply because it is viewed as less-than-lethal.

The fact that a gun is far more lethal has a few ramifications. One being that the officer cannot use it without possibly incurring a loss of his own freedom/job, if used improperly or unnecessarily. Another being that since a gun is far more lethal, the officer is less likely to resort to it when the situation may not call for a lethal response.

I say, officers have already been proven untrustworthy with a less-than-lethal weapon in countless cases that have been heard of in the news. Time to take away the toys and teach these officers a better way to handle confrontations.

11/23/2007 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am one of the selected officers that will be deployed with the Taser on the streets of London. I have just done the training and can safely state that it was a very hard and demanding course. For people to say that officers will abuse the item are crazy. Without doubt the Taser is the most accountable bit of kit that we have been issued. It is also the most effecetive.

If I was confronted by a criminal and I struck him with my ASP, (a iron bar) it WILL leave marks, bruises, breaks etc. Taser does not.

or I used open hand techniques= injury to them and me.

or if I used CS= It may not work and I would feel the effects of the spray.

People have the right to lawfully protest. I have the right to protect others, myself and the criminal. I also am duty bound to take action against law breakers. All of which I have to justify to others.

11/24/2007 05:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The envelope of use continues to expand. Children, elderly, handicapped.

How long before you get tased by
your boss for coming in late, or
your kids are tased by their teacher
for talking in class?

How long before we all wear electronic collars for behavior modification? Who gets to push the button? Will politicians wear one controlled by the voters?

Would you want your ex wife to have
control of your taser collar?

I think not.

It's all about mission creep folks.
Who draws the guidelines, and who enforces them? You have those subject to being tased and those who do the tasing. A two class society.

12/31/2007 05:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the London officer who replied, you must be one of the few cops with morals left then. There is already a video of cops in Nottingham abusing the use of a Taser and also beating the guy up. They should only be used in situations where a gun would normally be used, yet they are often employed as torture or a method to get the target to submit to the will of the officer.

They are nothing short of govt sanctioned torture even against criminals. No offence but you should try being on the other side of being tasered multiple times for not agreeing to sign a piece of paper, or trying to get down an offramp to a cycle lane. (both real cases)

Tasers should be banned, and if it continues that they aren't then people should be allowed to arm themselves in defence of cops who lack the morality needed to discern between someone who is actually dangerous and someone who isn't. That way if the copper has a problem he can make a lawful protest at a later date, isn't that the way the legal crap works...

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